[Syrupmakers] Diatomaceous Earth?

tom clayton weraisecane at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 13 19:16:46 CDT 2018


 I used baking soda back when we cooked with wood when we would have problems bringing the juice up the to clean. Never mixed mine with water but just need a small pinch to bring the skimming up real fast if your afraid you might cook them back into the juice. drop a small amount into the boiling juice and get on your horse because you will be skimming wide open to keep up the the nasty. Be carefull not to put in too much or it will roll out of the kettle. We had to use it most often when we cooked with the Japaneese cane. Always hard to clean up.My family would use the Diatomaceuos Earth when making sugar. They used a Jamaican train with 3 kettles and only D E in the Grande (first kettle). Seems like uncle Carl would get it from family up in Two Egg Florida. Makes me think it may have been available around their area. Nothing like that here in N E Florida that i know of. Tommy . Florida Sugarcane.    On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 6:27:53 PM EDT, Paul Lefebvre <paullefebvre at hotmail.com> wrote:  
 
 
Very interesting Gail!  I did a quick search, but couldn’t find any reference to using baking soda to help separation.  That doesn’t mean that your wrong though....anyone else have info on baking soda? 

  
 
Keith: I’m not quite sure what you mean by the rising of the juice.  Could you expand?  If the addition of lime makes a thicker foam, which helps the separation process, then I would imagine that the baking soda addition might work in the same way, since baking soda does cause the boiling juice to foam.  How do you neutralize the alkalinity of the lime?

  
 
Does anyone else have any other secrets/techniques to help in separation?    

  
 
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 From: Syrupmakers <syrupmakers-bounces at syrupmakers.net> on behalf of Keith Evans <dr.ofsheetrock at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:50:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [Syrupmakers] Diatomaceous Earth? I too have heard of the use of baking soda and water added to the juice to make it rise in the kettle, if it falls. By "it" , I mean the juice when it rises. Haven't heard of baking soda being used for separation. I'm in South East Alabama.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 11:44 AM tenacity at fidnet.com <tenacity at fidnet.com> wrote:


 Here in the midwest I have heard of using baking soda to bring the "debris" to the top quickly. I have not tried this myself. but understand it is used by some Amish regularly. Anyone tried using it? And in what quantity for what size pan? We have both a 100 gallon and a 30 gallon batch pan. Would love to hear any experiences.

 

Gail in Missouri

 

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Thanks for the reply Keith,

 

    Here in Canada, pickling lime is banned as a food additive, so it’s nearly impossible to get. ☹

 

Paul

 

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From: Syrupmakers <syrupmakers-bounces at syrupmakers.net> on behalf of Keith Evans <dr.ofsheetrock at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 8:04:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Syrupmakers] Diatomaceous Earth? I've never used DE , but I use a pickeling lime at around 160° to help with separation. It causes a bigger foam (crust) for particles to get trapped in, therefore being able to remove those fine particles easier.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 12:57 PM Paul Lefebvre <paullefebvre at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

 

   I was wondering if anyone on this list uses Diatomaceous Earth in their production of syrup.  Maasdam Sorghum Mill briefly mentions the addition of Diatomaceous Earth inthis video at around 6:00 to help remove particles, but doesn’t go into the exact specifics for using it, and was hoping I could get some feedback from anyone out there who knows more.

 

Cheers,

 

Paul

 

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