[Syrupmakers] Sweet Sorghum Destroyed Again by Sugar Cane Aphid in East Tennessee

Wed Oct 10 12:17:42 CDT 2018

Yes I have been to that convention year before.

Problem is most of the big farmers spray with the chemical that has to have special permit every year to spray.

I use a backpack powered blower to put my organic oil up under the leafs.

Scott

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On Oct 10, 2018, at 12:51 PM, burgeoningfarm <burgeoningfarm at gmail.com<mailto:burgeoningfarm at gmail.com>> wrote:

At the sweet sorghum producers meeting in Feb this was a hot topic. The aphids overwinter where it doesn't freeze then move north as it warms. There were test plots in I think TN just miles apart. Some got no damage some total loss. No reason known. It was mentioned about using Safer insect soap. The major problem is the aphids are on the bottom of the leaf so you to spray from the bottom up. At least this is my understanding.

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From: John Matheson <matheson.jc at gmail.com<mailto:matheson.jc at gmail.com>>
Date: 10/10/18 10:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: A list for sorghum and cane syrupmakers <syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net<mailto:syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net>>
Subject: Re: [Syrupmakers] Sweet Sorghum Destroyed Again by Sugar Cane Aphid in East Tennessee

Scott,
This is the second year I've had the aphids in southern NC, first year I knew what it was. My ants are fire ants, so I attempt to control their numbers, but I don't treat the sorghum plants. Lots of those as in an ladybugs here, to no avail.

The aphids seem to arrive late in the season. Anyone try to plant early to avoid their arrival in numbers? I read that they overwinter in the Deep South.

-John

On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 8:58 AM Scott <scott at eldercomputersolutions.com<mailto:scott at eldercomputersolutions.com>> wrote:
No I don’t have mealybugs.

I have buckwheat to bring in the beneficials. I have tons of lady bugs but they can’t kill aphids fast enough to keep up

Scott

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> On Oct 10, 2018, at 8:40 AM, Richard Harrison <rharrison922 at yahoo.com<mailto:rharrison922 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
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> Keith and Scott,.
>    The only problem with relying on beneficials is that when they eat the population they would have nothing left to eat. Therefore, beneficials don't usually get so numerous as to destroy all their "food". Hence, the best you could hope for is some degree of control and not eradication.
>    So, Scott, do you have mealybugs as well as aphids?
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> Richard
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> On Wed, 10/10/18, Keith Evans <dr.ofsheetrock at gmail.com<mailto:dr.ofsheetrock at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Syrupmakers] Sweet Sorghum Destroyed Again by Sugar Cane Aphid in East Tennessee
> To: "A list for sorghum and cane syrupmakers" <syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net<mailto:syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net>>
> Date: Wednesday, October 10, 2018, 6:18 AM
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> They say that lady
> bugs will take care of the aphid problem, if you get enough
> of them
> On Wed, Oct
> 10, 2018, 6:15 AM Scott <scott at eldercomputersolutions.com<mailto:scott at eldercomputersolutions.com>>
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> I have
> not noticed lots of ants.
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> Scott
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>> On Oct 10, 2018, at 3:49 AM, Richard Harrison <rharrison922 at yahoo.com<mailto:rharrison922 at yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
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>> Scott,
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>>    I have read that ants are usually a big part of the
> problem as they have a symbiotic relationship with
> aphids.
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>> Have you noticed lots of ants?  Do you think you could
> control them and see if it will help or solve the
> problem?
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>> Also, I have always noticed mealybugs rather than
> aphids, per se, on my sugarcane in NW FL. Ants also
> "farm"
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>> mealybugs as well.
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>> Richard Harrison
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>> On Tue, 10/9/18, Scott <scott at eldercomputersolutions.com<mailto:scott at eldercomputersolutions.com>>
> wrote:
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>> Subject: [Syrupmakers] Sweet Sorghum Destroyed Again by
> Sugar Cane Aphid in East Tennessee
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>> To: "syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net<mailto:syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net>"
> <syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net<mailto:syrupmakers at syrupmakers.net>>
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>> Date: Tuesday, October 9, 2018, 10:02 PM
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>> This is the 3rd year in row my sweet sorghum grown
> in
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>> East Tennessee has been damaged and/or destroyed by
> the
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>> sugar cane aphid.  Gets worse every year.  I grow
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>> organically so I have not tried the EPA banned
> product.
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>>   I have tried Neem Oil and Karanja Oil.
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>>    It has been suggested to try Neemix but at this
> point
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>> I am trying to decide will I every stop those pests.
> I
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>> have considered just not growing for awhile and wait
> and
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>> see.  Any suggestions would be appreciated?
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>> Thanks
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>> Scott
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