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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> syrupmakers-bounces@syrupmakers.net [mailto:syrupmakers-bounces@syrupmakers.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Harrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 04, 2013 12:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> A list for sorghum and cane syrupmakers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Syrupmakers] Propane on Sale for Syrup Cooking<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">     Minor correction: 1 gallon of propane per 1 gallon of syrup(not juice).            :)
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:14 PM, Tracy Baudoin (tbaudoin) <<a href="mailto:tbaudoin@cisco.com">tbaudoin@cisco.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">And just as a comparison, it takes me about 15-20 gallons of propane to cook 100 gallons of juice down to ~15-20 gallons of syrup. 
 So I concur with Richards assessment of 1gal. propane per 1gal. juice.  It’s a good rule of thumb for sugarcane that’s harvested with ~17-23 brix readings.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">That said, I’ve cut a deal with my local propane supplier, where I scratch his back and he scratches mine (tractor and mechanic work),
 so I get a great discount on price. ;-)</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Tracy Baudoin</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:syrupmakers-bounces@syrupmakers.net">syrupmakers-bounces@syrupmakers.net</a> [<a href="mailto:syrupmakers-bounces@syrupmakers.net">mailto:syrupmakers-bounces@syrupmakers.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Harrison<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 04, 2013 11:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> A list for sorghum and cane syrupmakers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Syrupmakers] Propane on Sale for Syrup Cooking</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">   Syrup takes about 1 gallon of propane to cook 1 gallon of syrup: this is a rule of thumb. It depends on the efficiency of your burners
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">   Hope you find this helpful.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">                       Richard Harrison</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:29 AM, Kirk Palis <<a href="mailto:kirkdavidson@yahoo.com" target="_blank">kirkdavidson@yahoo.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">I am not sure how to send a message to the list, but I will try...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Richard, how much propane do you use for cooking a batch of syrup?  I have heard some incredible numbers from some locals here who use wood.  One "estimate"
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Another person allegedly did a calculation and said it would use X BTUs to cook 80 gallons of juice into syrup and therefore, the Y number of cookings
 will cost you about $1600 for propane (of was the estimate $1200?).  Can you share your opinion or experience?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">On Sunday, November 3, 2013 4:16 PM, Richard Harrison <<a href="mailto:rharrison922@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rharrison922@yahoo.com</a>>
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 ends, but wanted to pass on the "hot" tip. They usually have 2 sales per year with a real discounted price like this.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Hope someone can save some $. I bought mine last year when it was on sale.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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