<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Kirk, We use about 18 gallons of propane per 100 gallons of juice. Tracy and Richard get a lot better return than I do. My yield is usually 12 gallons of syrup per 100 gallons juice. Tommy</span></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, November 4, 2013 1:38 PM, Tracy Baudoin (tbaudoin) <tbaudoin@cisco.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9907325181"><style>#yiv9907325181 #yiv9907325181 --
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Thanks Richard….good catch!</span></div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Syrupmakers] Propane on Sale for Syrup Cooking</span></div>
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">It would expensive if it were per gallon of juice!</span></div>
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:14 PM, Tracy Baudoin (tbaudoin) <<a href="mailto:tbaudoin@cisco.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:tbaudoin@cisco.com">tbaudoin@cisco.com</a>> wrote:</span><span></span></div>
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">And just as a comparison, it takes me about 15-20 gallons of propane to cook 100 gallons of juice down to ~15-20 gallons of syrup.
So I concur with Richards assessment of 1gal. propane per 1gal. juice. It’s a good rule of thumb for sugarcane that’s harvested with ~17-23 brix readings.</span><span></span></div>
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">That said, I’ve cut a deal with my local propane supplier, where I scratch his back and he scratches mine (tractor and mechanic work),
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 04, 2013 11:43 AM<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Syrup takes about 1 gallon of propane to cook 1 gallon of syrup: this is a rule of thumb. It depends on the efficiency of your burners
and setup and the brix of your juice, etc. Typically, a syrupmaking friend of mine that cooks 2 and 3 80 gallon kettles a day will use about 20 gallons of propane on a batch. He will get about 12-15 gallons of syrup. So, the cost of his propane is about $40
to cook 15 gallons of syrup in an 80 gallon kettle.</span><span></span></div>
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Monday, November 4, 2013 11:29 AM, Kirk Palis <<a href="mailto:kirkdavidson@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:kirkdavidson@yahoo.com">kirkdavidson@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Richard, how much propane do you use for cooking a batch of syrup? I have heard some incredible numbers from some locals here who use wood. One "estimate"
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span>Another person allegedly did a calculation and said it would use X BTUs to cook 80 gallons of juice into syrup and therefore, the Y number of cookings
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<div class="yiv9907325181MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">On Sunday, November 3, 2013 4:16 PM, Richard Harrison <<a href="mailto:rharrison922@yahoo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rharrison922@yahoo.com">rharrison922@yahoo.com</a>>
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